很多人都是从历史问题或者国家利益出发,但政府层面的事情肯定是盘根错节的。 我来翻译一个,俄罗斯人对中国的态度吧,来源是Quora上相关问题票数最高的回答, 俄罗斯人Pavel Wolkow:
毛派中国学生到莫斯科学习的时候,我的经济学导师也正好在莫斯科大学念书。 那个时候,学校给这些学生提供了大概1000卢布的津贴,而这些中国学生会寄600卢布回国,只留下400卢布过生活。几个月以后,他们又要求只想留下200卢布,这样就能寄更多的钱(800卢布)回国,但是这个要求被学校拒绝了。 他们的爱国精神,以及辛劳刻苦都让我的老师在内的所有人震惊不已。
尽管别无选择,但当时的苏联人信任他们的政府。可结果,政府最后却兜售了苏联,戈尔巴乔夫接受了诺贝尔和平奖,很多高官也成为欧洲亿万富翁的一员。这就好比,父亲(政府)卖掉自己的孩子(人民)为奴隶。戈尔巴乔夫和叶利钦是列宁当之无愧的接班人,我必须承认这一点。(俄罗斯人也知道列宁其实是德国资助的,俄版大炮?)
所以,在90年代的俄罗斯,无论是大众还是私人媒体,都嘲笑中国,因为中国当时不满足西方的要求,也不与西方合作,对这个世界显得格格不入(是不是有北朝鲜的即视感...)。比如,和苏联允许周边地区独立不同,中国政府拒绝让西藏和新疆独立。那个时候,在俄罗斯,对当年出卖苏联的人的抗议(原文里用的是“小偷、叛徒和外国人”这三个单词)都会被公开压制,给每一个公民和整个世界看到。尽管叶利钦和戈尔巴乔夫破坏了国家,老百姓也非常穷,但媒体和政府仍然认为,只要履行了西方的要求,你的日子就可以更好。从另一个角度来看,他们确实是对的:那些在政府工作的人或者叶利钦的家人朋友在1-2年内迅速成为亿万富翁,在英国、法国、以色列等国家过着奢侈的生活。而此时,中国正在致力于艰苦奋斗。
普通人,像我一样或者只是诚实的爱国者很羡慕中国和中国人,因为他们保持着自己的传统和状态,这意味着他们充满希望。当时,每一个爱国者都被俄罗斯媒体称为“病态帝国的sidromom”(不知道怎么翻译),“俄罗斯法西斯”,“红褐色骗局”等。难以置信,但当时“爱国者”和“俄罗斯”被认为是卑劣的话(爱国主义被批为无知,爱国者一律被嘲笑为五毛,历史总是惊人的相似)。诚实和努力工作?不要让我发笑。 “俄罗斯”安全会议秘书别列佐夫斯基先生说:如果一个人不偷不杀人,他只是懒惰。 我们看着中国,在心底为中国祈祷。这听起来滑稽,但它是真实的。我很高兴,中国一直没有停止过,这是向前走,中国人越来越富裕。
最后结尾:“为什么我们没有自己的邓小平?当我想想我都快哭了。”
My supervisor professor of economy studied at Moscow University when Mao sent his students to Moscow. At that time, in the main university paid a very large stipend of one thousand rubles. These students asked to send 600 rubles to their homeland in China, and currently left only 400 to them. After couple of months they once again asked to reduce the stipend to 200 rubles, but rector refused this request. Their patriotism, their hard work amazed everybody.
Soviet people trust their government( though they had no choice) but they trusted. The Soviet government decided to sell the country, receive the Nobel Prize and become a billionaire in Europe. Father sold their children into slavery. Gorbachev and Yeltsin was a worthy successor of Lenin, I must admit it. So In the 90th public and private "russian" media ridiculed China for what it does not want to comply with the requirements of the West. For example the Chinese government has refused to give the independence to Tibet or Xinjiang. At that time in Russia any revolt against thieves, traitors and foreigners suppressed publicly to show every citizen and the whole world.
Although Yeltsin and Gorbachev destroyed the country and the common people were very, very poor, but the media and the government still think that only if you are fulfilling the requirements of the West, you can become rich. From one point of view they were right those who work in government or friends of Yeltsin or his family were stealing state property and became billionaires in 1-2 years to live in luxury in England, Israel or France, while the Chinese devoteded to hard work. Ordinary people like me or just honest patriots envious of China and the Chinese people, because they have kept the state, which means they have hope. At that time every patriot called in the media "sick empire sidromom", "Russian fascists", "red-brown scam" and so on. Unbelievable but the words "patriot" or "russian" was considered despicable. Honesty and hard work? Do not make me laugh. "Russian" Security Council Secretary, Mr. Berezovsky said that if a person does not steal or kill, he is just lazy. And we looked at China, and prayed for the Chinese people. It sounds funny but it's true.
I am very glad that China has not stopped, it is moving forward, Chinese are getting richer. Long life for China!
P.S. What a pity that we did not have our Deng Xiaoping. When I think about it I am almost crying.
原文链接:https://www.quora.com/What-do-Russians-think-of-China-and-Chinese-people
关于苏联解体部分的补充,英文好的同学可以看看: https://www.quora.com/What-was-it-like-to-be-in-the-Soviet-Union-just-after-it-collapsed |